bhzmafia14 wrote:No doubt they are deep, but I won't take them seriously until they get a bonafide source ala Roy and Aldridge. That roster won't ever get a title, do you disagree?
Long Beach Vincey wrote:
rocksfan25 wrote:Huh? POR needs a second option behind Roy who can create his own offense. Turk would have filled that role..
Solid pick up for Toronto and not a bad loss for the Blazers, there's really no point in them going after another SF. With this signing Toronto can REALLY use Joey Graham back (or Marion if possible).
Nobody will take POR seriously until they get a third option to go along with Roy and Aldridge
When you have a team as deep as Portland, a third option is less needed. They have plenty of wing players on that team that could easily be the 3rd player to score 20+ points on any given night. Webster can do it if healthy along with Outlaw and Rudy. Depending on if they go after a PG, the PG they bring would probably be able to do it as well.
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Turkoglu agrees to terms with the Raptors.....i think
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Posts: 1284 07/04/09 2:23 PM |
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sorry Milwaukee!
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Posts: 16029 07/04/09 2:27 PM |
Great non-move for Portland.
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Posts: 7347 07/04/09 2:40 PM |
Enlightened Thought wrote: not necessarily true. my point was just that their games arent comparable. peja is obviously a pure shooter but also a better scorer, he does it in a less dynamic way but he was putting up 24 ppg in his prime, and while hedo wasnt the #1 option in orlando, peja also did that behind chris webber hedo still hasnt cracked 20ppg yet. but while hedo can definitely shoot, he's more versatile offensively. he can handle the ball and be a playmaker, getting to the basket or finding teammates. there arent a lot of 6'10" dudes out there that can dish out 5 ast per contest. id be ecstatic if he can put in something like the 19, 5 and 5 from 2 seasons ago. Kansas Jayhawks
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Posts: 3336 07/04/09 3:15 PM |
^ I agree with Enlightened, Hedo is way better than Peja ever was. Like you said Clutchshooter: Peja is strictly a spot-up shooter. He can't create offense
for himself or others and definitely doesn't create matchup problems like Hedo does.
I think Portland definitely lost out because as many on this board mentioned, Roy and Aldridge need help if Portland seriously wants to contend for a championship. Turkoglu is a perfect piece because he is creative and a good distributor without taking shots from Roy and Aldridge. Hedo is unselfish enough to make the Blazers a better team overall. Forget Rudy Fernandez's gripe 
Read somewhere that Hedo and his wife preferred Toronto all along...not much Portland could do after offering 5/60. I still like that Blake/Outlaw for Hinrich deal if it's even still on the table.
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Posts: 2107 07/04/09 3:17 PM |
Long Beach Vincey wrote: I agree, but adding Turk wouldn't have got them close to winning a title either IMO. That's why I thought the move was kinda pointless in a way. I think the team would actually be closer to a title contender if they could've added a veteran PG (Miller, Hinrich, Bibby, etc) rather than just Turkoglu. The make up of their team is already set other than PG. Team:Tennessee |
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Posts: 1743 07/04/09 3:32 PM |
blake+outlaw for kirk is a no no for me.
adding turk would be a huge step closer to an title then a veteran pg. imo, blake is a good point guard. he has an pass first ability, while being able to knock down an 3. the thing is, they need bayless to develop so that they can ship blake+outlaw. great way for him to develop is adding turk into their lineup, allowing 3 ball handlers which takes pressure off of bayless.
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Posts: 7461 07/04/09 3:35 PM |
JordanNB23 wrote:Stop that.
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Posts: 3610 07/04/09 4:29 PM |
i dont think this is a good move by the raps...
im kind of pissed... but oh well.. what they need is a good SG *cough *caron butler* cough* theyre stacked with SFs.... shawn, joey, demar.... the only REAL SG they have is anthony.... 
i dont know, we'll see what else colangelo has up his sleeve.... TEAM MARVEL - NIGHTCRAWLER
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Posts: 989 07/04/09 4:40 PM |
DeMar is a SG. No way D2 plays the 3.
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Posts: 3611 07/04/09 4:46 PM |
yea,
true, my bad.... but they still need a better backcourt that plays both ends.... TEAM MARVEL - NIGHTCRAWLER
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Posts: 4507 07/04/09 4:56 PM |
arrjae wrote:Anthony, Joey and Shawn won't be back. Demar will start and seems to be a good defender we still have a shot at getting back delfino of the contract is structured right or we work a sign and trade.
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Posts: 3615 07/04/09 5:09 PM |
^ yea
i heard about getting delfino back.... joeys not coming back?  oh well....
then our bench consists of... roko, pops, quincy, humpty-dump... TEAM MARVEL - NIGHTCRAWLER
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Posts: 7124 07/04/09 5:30 PM |
turk's signing sort of suggests that marion's going elsewhere. can't see the raps bringing back marion.
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Posts: 1763 07/04/09 5:52 PM |
When did Turk become this dynamic all star Lamar Odom type?? Like I said before if he was really THAT good he would still be in Sactown with a max
contract..Turk benefited from Orlando's offense and being a 6"10 SF ..To say he was ever better than Peja is comedy..Dude couldn't even last a
season on the Spurs.I think Popavich knows quality talent when he sees it..Dudes must have just started watching bball or somethin..yes he will make a good fit
with Toronto but to say hes some NBa all star 10 years into his career is laughable..
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Posts: 109 07/04/09 6:00 PM |
darn..
Been lurkin' since 2003.. Been a trucker since the thread started UStream name - ThisIsDollars Team National Truckers "Keep on Truckin' "
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Posts: 3518 07/04/09 6:05 PM |
JordanNB23 wrote:The reason Hedo didn't stay in SA is because he doesn't fit their system. He's an uptempo type player, and the Spurs need players who play D. I don't know why y'all comparing Hedo and Peja. They're not even the same player.
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Posts: 3622 07/04/09 6:09 PM |
i dont think hedo would have got this much 'shine' if grant hill stayed...
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Posts: 8931 07/04/09 6:20 PM |
Good non move for Portland. 50 mil for Turk is bad business, period.
But has to make one wonder if any decent player will ever sign in Portland doesn't it? Toronto that much better city to live in when not winning? Yikes.
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Posts: 7733 07/04/09 6:26 PM |
JordanNB23 wrote:Turk has always had this skill set, but never had the ball in his hands till 07 when SVG came to the Magic. He didn't last in San Antonio because he didn't mesh well with the system/other players and he was asking for too much money after a sub-par season there.
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hedo should do well in a free flowing offense . Kansas Jayhawks
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