Official Toronto Raptors Offseason Thread . First (preseason) game in 2 days! Season Thread is up!

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Clutchshooter		#181	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7342 07/04/09 4:44 AM	the hell are people so concerned with trix, ap, and delfino now for? people were clamouring for ap not to be brought back last season. i swear there was a parade when delfino went to europe. and unless i was watching a different nba, marion didnt really effect the game for the raptors the way he used to in his prime. turkoglu addresses possibly the biggest weakness the raptors have. he is a playmaker who can create his own offense on the wing. he can shoot, handle, pass, and get to the basket. i dont think the contract was that great of an idea but in no way were they going to be any better by keeping the current roster intact. i would have pursued david lee more actually, but again im not going to mind seeing turk in a raptors uni for a season or two. Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch. Last Edited By: Clutchshooter 07/04/09 1:42 PM. Edited 2 times.
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Osh Kosh Bosh		#182	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4501 07/04/09 8:51 AM	Oh best belive Colongelo will make sure we still have the MLE and If we do Kleiza may still be in play. Here are some names that a guy in the organization gave me yesterday as possible guys who'll fall through the cracks and be available on minimum salary deals when the economic pinch is truly felt later this summer: Matt Barnes, Von Wafer, Gerald Green, Ronnie Price, Joey Graham, Jamario Moon (remember those last two?) and maybe even Shannon Brown, although that's a stretch. per Doug Smith. _TeamJays_ The Doctor is in... Last Edited By: Osh Kosh Bosh 07/04/09 8:53 AM. Edited 1 time.
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Clutchshooter		#183	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7346 07/04/09 2:02 PM	getting a grasp of what the roster looks like as of right now bargnani bosh turkoglu derozan calderon evans hump douby ukic banks starting frontcourt should be one of the more mobile in the league and spreading the opposing defense shouldnt be an issue with all that range. dont think derozan should be starting immediately but there is literally no one else. still need major upgrades at shooting guard, the bench overall is looking pretty thin but moreso in the back court. evans and hump combo should be able to bang and provode a semblance of toughness off the bench. ukic was seen as a lottery selection by some and he has shown some great flashes but he's got to get more consistent . Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch.
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BangDak		#184	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1741 07/04/09 2:11 PM	david lee wouldn't fit in here. where would he play with bosh and bargani? shannon brown would be a nice fit in the raptors. im saying, the lakers are making an huge mistake if they dont resign brown/odom. the raptors must find a way to make that contract shorter so they have some extra money to spend on that bench, because those starters are going to have to push 40mins a nights each. Waiting for 09-10
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I NaSmatic I		#185	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7727 07/04/09 2:20 PM	The starting five looks solid but that bench looks terrible . Some potential bargains/steals out there that the Raptors should look into to round out the roster: Ime Udoka, Keith Bogans, Walter Herrmann, Jamaal Magloire ROSE.
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BallinBoykz		#186	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8195 07/04/09 7:47 PM	And to think, two years ago we had the best bench in the NBA Any update to the Kleiza rumor? _TeamJays_ 32-Halladay \| 24-Romero \| 37-Downs \| 52-Ryan \| 35-Overbay \| 2-Hill \| 6-McDonald \| 15-Rios \| 10-Wells \| 26-Lind \| 45-Snider .:: 1992 \| 1993 ::.
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Blazers21NTNP		#187	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9851 07/05/09 1:29 AM Moderator	Couldn't believe the Turkoglu signing when I read it; all afternoon "Trukoglu & Blazers reach agreement", then I go out for the night and come home to "Turkoglu headed to Toronto". Opinions on the Summer League roster? DeMar DeRozan Roko Ukic Quincy Douby Nathan Jawai Patrick O'Bryant Carl English - Always been a big fan since his days at Hawaii, hope he can somehow crack the roster (I know it's very unlikely) Ekene Ibekwe David Doublas Brent Petway Paul Davis - Might be a nice addition to the front court Smush Parker - Demetris Nichols
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Physicx		#188	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 1825 07/05/09 1:32 AM	Blazers21NTNP wrote: Couldn't believe the Turkoglu signing when I read it; all afternoon "Trukoglu & Blazers reach agreement", then I go out for the night and come home to "Turkoglu headed to Toronto". Opinions on the Summer League roster? Smush Parker - ah hell nah TEAM METALHEADS teammarvelTOXIN EDMONTONOILERS TEAMNHL
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I NaSmatic I		#189	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7735 07/05/09 1:34 AM	If Paul Davis has fully recovered from the ACL tear, he should make the roster. ROSE.
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Clutchshooter		#190	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7355 07/05/09 4:47 AM	davis could be a gem on that roster. Carl English - Always been a big fan since his days at Hawaii, hope he can somehow crack the roster (I know it's very unlikely) if you're looking for canadian content, both denham brown and juan mendez can do the same things as english, (which is essentially shoot) just better. both are better players too. Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch.
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Not a sneak		#191	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 994 07/05/09 5:43 AM	You guys should go after Von Wafer for a back up 2, he'd be great off the bench because you guys have NO scoring off the bench. Maybe get GG if you are looking for another athlete to replace Joey. Also maybe look a potential sign and trade for Josh Childress who is rumored to want to come back to the NBA. He'd be a great back up 2/3, athletic, can defend, shoot, and a high basketball IQ. He shouldn't ask for a bigger contract then about 4-5 mil a year. "When you shoot for the stars, sometimes your gun will jam"
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Osh Kosh Bosh		#192	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 4509 07/05/09 11:27 AM	Hmm Matt Barnes and Von Wafer seem pretty intriguing, if I have a choice between Gerald Greene and Joey Graham I'm taking Joey, other than jumping high does Gerald greene bring to the basketball court. At least Joeys got serviceable defense, decent mid range jumper, good rebound can play the 4 ina pinch...or maybe even Jamrio Moon who at least is a good defender and his 3 point shot has become decent. Gerald is just so bad in every way shape and form. _TeamJays_ The Doctor is in...
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Clutchshooter		#193	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7358 07/05/09 1:33 PM	Maybe get GG if you are looking for another athlete to replace Joey they arent really comparable players. green is a leaper, that's it. joey's doesnt just jump, he's a bit of a bruiser and he can be a serious problem on the O-glass when he's playing well. that's the issue, while he's a talented player, he cant really ever put that together into an extended period of playing well. Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch.
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BrOwNiN187		#194	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 6156 07/05/09 1:57 PM	i doubt we could scoop matt barnes for a min contract but von wafer is a player that could help with depth on the wings for minimal money. Illuminati wants my mind soul and my body, a secret society tryin' to keep their eye on me.'
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BallinBoykz		#195	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 8199 07/05/09 2:40 PM	I dont know about Von. Dude is a good player, but its the attitude I would be concerned about. I like both players, and I think they would be good, but I wouldn't be surprised if Von had a short leash in Toronto if he was on our roster. _TeamJays_ 32-Halladay \| 24-Romero \| 37-Downs \| 52-Ryan \| 35-Overbay \| 2-Hill \| 6-McDonald \| 15-Rios \| 10-Wells \| 26-Lind \| 45-Snider .:: 1992 \| 1993 ::.
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Blazers21NTNP		#196	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9853 07/05/09 3:13 PM Moderator	Clutchshooter wrote: davis could be a gem on that roster. Carl English - Always been a big fan since his days at Hawaii, hope he can somehow crack the roster (I know it's very unlikely) if you're looking for canadian content, both denham brown and juan mendez can do the same things as english, (which is essentially shoot) just better. both are better players too. Mendez is a completely different player than English & Brown. He's an undersized post player who can step out and and hit the mid-range J, which is why he's not in the league. He was a great college player, but nobody wants a 6'8" center. I think saying he can do the "same things as English" is ridiculous. I've always been a fan of Brown, but I would argue that English is a better perimeter shooter than he is. Over the past few years Brown has made some adjustments to his form, I'm not sure why, because it looks uglier and goes in less.
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Freshsince1982		#197	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 5534 07/05/09 3:34 PM	if you're looking for canadian content, both denham brown and juan mendez can do the same things as english, (which is essentially shoot) just better. Juan Mendez a better shooter than English http://search.ebay.ca/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZjnice13
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Clutchshooter		#198	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7359 07/05/09 3:42 PM	Blazers21NTNP wrote: Mendez is a completely different player than English & Brown. He's an undersized post player who can step out and and hit the mid-range J, which is why he's not in the league. He was a great college player, but nobody wants a 6'8" center. I think saying he can do the "same things as English" is ridiculous. not at all. im well aware that mendez is a forward, however the only thing english can do that could even remotely be considered a strength is shoot the ball, which mendez can do just as effectively. english cant pass, handle, board, defend ,or get to the basket, or do anything that a team needs their guards to do. so yes, as far as anything that could be relevant and helpful to a squad, mendez can do the exact same things english can. mendez (and denham for that matter) is bigger, more athletic, and versatile. and last i checked, neither of them is in the nba. . Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch.
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Blazers21NTNP		#199	[url]	[-]
Posts: 9854 07/05/09 3:49 PM Moderator	Clutchshooter wrote: Blazers21NTNP wrote: Mendez is a completely different player than English & Brown. He's an undersized post player who can step out and and hit the mid-range J, which is why he's not in the league. He was a great college player, but nobody wants a 6'8" center. I think saying he can do the "same things as English" is ridiculous. english cant pass, handle, board, defend ,or get to the basket, or do anything that a team needs their guards to do. mendez (and denham for that matter) is bigger, more athletic, and versatile. What can exactly can Mendez as a big do to help an NBA squad? He is not versatile at all... he can hit a mid-range jump shot, is too slow to take anybody off the dribble, and not tall enough/strong enough to play on the block.
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Clutchshooter		#200	[url]	[-]
Registered Member Posts: 7360 07/05/09 3:52 PM	Blazers21NTNP wrote: Clutchshooter wrote: Blazers21NTNP wrote: Mendez is a completely different player than English & Brown. He's an undersized post player who can step out and and hit the mid-range J, which is why he's not in the league. He was a great college player, but nobody wants a 6'8" center. I think saying he can do the "same things as English" is ridiculous. english cant pass, handle, board, defend ,or get to the basket, or do anything that a team needs their guards to do. mendez (and denham for that matter) is bigger, more athletic, and versatile. What can exactly can Mendez as a big do to help an NBA squad? He is not versatile at all... he can hit a mid-range jump shot, is too slow to take anybody off the dribble, and not tall enough/strong enough to play on the block. apply the same question to english and i think you might fiiiiiinally get my point. . Kansas Jayhawks 2007-2008 National Champions ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK Team Peace 'What the World Really Needs Right Now' Clutch.
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